You are so intelligent. Why do you need a myth?
“Isn’t Jesus just an extension of the pagan mythological creatures who died and rose again? Isn’t he just a made-up Jewish myth? Aren’t Christian holidays and holy days based on Pagan rituals? Don’t you see that it is all just a huge smoke and mirrors routine with “mysteries” that only priests are allowed to understand?
These are the questions asked of me by my atheist friends and children.”
My answer:
Jesus is not a mythological person. His existence is part of history. You can argue some of the more sensational aspects of his existence, like rising from the dead if you like, but there is no doubt that a man named Jesus existed and he was killed at the hands of the Romans by the insistence of the Jewish Sanhedrin.
Ancient Observers and Creation Myths: I teach a course where my students engage in the journey of science, beginning with the observations of early aboriginal people of Australia (40-60,000 years ago) and culminating with the search for elementary particles at the C.E.R.N. in Switzerland.
In this journey, we explore how early observations and the struggle to explain these observations and experiences, led to the development of creation myths and cosmological narratives, which have been passed down orally from generation to generation.
Through this exploration, we learn how ancient observers developed similar explanations despite existing on different continents and at different times.
Most creation myths begin with darkness or nothingness and then light or sound or a first being emerging to aid in the creation of all things. In these ways, the genesis story is not unlike the expected creation myths developed by others through time.
Proof that Jesus was a historical figure: Many of the stories in the Old Testament also seem reminiscent of the standard oral tradition, moral stories of ancient people.
There is one basic difference, however; Jesus was not only mentioned in the New Testament of the Bible as a flesh and blood person, but also by the Jewish historian, Josephus, as well as the Roman historian, Tacitus.
All accounts describe Jesus as a man who was real and not a fictional character.
Jesus is mentioned in the Gospel texts by real men, the Apostles, who were also referenced by ancient historians.
Additionally, Jesus is also mentioned in the Quran. Not just as a great prophet of God, to be respected and revered, but also as a child born to a virgin.
“He is spoken of as “the word of God,” as “the spirit of God,” as a “Sign of God,” and numerous other epithets of honor spread over fifteen different chapters.
The Holy Quran honors this mighty Messenger of God, and the Muslims have not fallen short over the past fourteen hundred years in doing the same…”
Mary, the mother of Jesus, is also referenced in the Quran, “Behold! The angels said: “O Mary! God hath chosen thee and purified thee-chosen thee above the women of all nations.”
Mary’s mother is also mentioned as being a devout woman, who is barren and asks the Lord to bless her with a child.
The Quran mentions the following…
- That Mary, the mother of Jesus, was a virtuous woman and honored above the women of all nations.
- That all that was being said was God’s own Revelation to Muhummed
- That Jesus was a “Word” from God.
- That he was the Christ that the Jews were waiting for.
- That God will empower this Jesus to perform miracles even in infancy
- Jesus was born miraculously, without any male intervention.
- That God will vouchsafe him Revelation.
- That he will give life to the dead by God’s permission, and that he will heal those born blind and the lepers by God’s permission, etc.
Some would say that Muhammed simply retold a story he had already heard from the Jews and/or Christians, but as a person, who did not know how to read or write, his rendering of Christ’s story and all of his teachings are said to have come from God himself. He was an Arab, why would he exalt a Christian prophet and martyr?
So, we have the Holy Bible, the Holy Quran and the writings of Roman and Jewish historians to validate the existence of a great man who walked the earth and his name was Jesus.
My Christian Faith: My Christian faith is not shaped by historical proof or events. My faith is not a much-needed myth to help explain the unexplainable.
As a scientist, I separate faith, religion, and scientific thinking.
Even though I separate them and compartmentalize them, to some degree, they are not separate.
As a scholar and an educator, I understand all too well that we are the sum of all that has come before.
Just as science is dynamic and always changing with new information, so is our human existence and experience.
We are the sum of the knowledge and experiences of all human thinkers before us. We carry the traditions and thoughts of all who searched for answers before us.
Science and Religion: Much like Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler, Newton….. I too had to struggle with my desire for proof of all things physical and to reach the conclusion that not everything in the cosmos is necessarily quantifiable within our limited 4D space and time.
I must use the scientific process to evaluate what I can observe and quantify. Until new tools and information are added to the process, I must resign myself to endlessly seeking knowledge and truth with what is currently available.
The truth I seek through the scientific process has nothing to do with belief. It is the truth, based on a rigorous, iterative process, that yields verifiable evidence.
Science is dynamic and subject to change as new information is revealed and new tools are presented. The things that we are able to observe and to experience through our physical human existence may be described, measured, quantified, and modeled, but do not require “belief” to be accepted as truth.
As a scientist, who also believes, I find great joy in discovering “How God did it?” I stand in awe of the divine creation. My desire is to know more and to use the gifts God has given me to explore, appreciate and to even quantify what is seen and unseen in the universe.
My faith in God and my confidence in the scientific method are not counter to one another. They complement one another.
The need to quantify or scientifically evaluate an existence beyond the 4D space/time is not necessary for me to be able to believe in God or the Gospels, which recount the beautiful teachings of Jesus Christ.
My faith is personal and it is uniquely mine. Through the grace-filled sacraments and the living Liturgy (Word and Eucharist) of the Roman Catholic Church, I find a multifaceted, fully spiritual, physical, intellectual and transcendental engagement with God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit and all saints and angels in heaven. I find nourishment in word and spirit. I am given strength for this life’s journey and hope through the promise of eternal life.
What I believe is best expressed through “The Apostle’s Creed,”
- I believe in God the Father, Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth:
- And in Jesus Christ, his only begotten Son, our Lord:
- Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary:
- Suffered under Pontius Pilate; was crucified, dead and buried: He descended into hell:
- The third day he rose again from the dead:
- He ascended into heaven, and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty:
- From thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead:
- I believe in the Holy Ghost:
- I believe in the holy catholic church:
- the communion of saints:
- The forgiveness of sins:
- The resurrection of the body:
- And the life everlasting. Amen.
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Josephus, Flavius (1957 reprint), The Life and Works of Flavius Josephus, trans. William Whitson (Philadelphia, PA: John Whitson).
Tacitus, Cornelius P. (1952 reprint), The Annals and the Histories, trans. Michael Grant (Chicago, IL: William Benton), Great Books of the Western World Series.
https://apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=10&article=876
http://www.islam101.com/history/people/prophets/jesus/christ_in_islam2.htm
https://www.ccel.org/creeds/apostles.creed.html
http://www.loreoftheland.com.au/land/time.html
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2009/07/27/2632463.htm
Thanks for sending this to me. I enjoyed it. I get a lot of grief from friends who deny that anyone named Jesus ever existed in history.
There are several secular sources confirming the existence of a historical Jesus.
Pliny the Younger was the Roman governor of Bithynia. He had issues with Christians. While he does not mention “Jesus” by name, in a letter to Emperor Trajan, he does discuss early Christians and the problems he has with them. Notice what he says the “problem” is that he has with them. The following is an excerpt from that letter from 112AD:
“That they were wont, on a stated day, to meet together before it was light, and to sing a hymn to Christ, as to a god, alternately; and to oblige themselves by a sacrament [or oath], not to do anything that was ill: but that they would commit no theft, or pilfering, or adultery; that they would not break their promises, or deny what was deposited with them, when it was required back again; after which it was their custom to depart, and to meet again at a common but innocent meal, which they had left off upon that edict which I published at your command, and wherein I had forbidden any such conventicles. These examinations made me think it necessary to inquire by torments what the truth was; which I did of two servant maids, who were called Deaconesses: but still I discovered no more than that they were addicted to a bad and to an extravagant superstition.”
A bad and extravagant superstition which prompts its believers to make promises not to lie, cheat, steal, murder, etc. while encouraging them to get up early, hang out and sing and eat together once a week.
Makes me wonder what happened to Christianity since then to cause people who call themselves Christians to act so differently from that.
smh
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/maps/primary/pliny.html
Citation for the quote from Pliny’s letter to Trajan. My apologies for not including my source earlier.
Thank you Danny for your comments and your citations. 🙂
http://catholicexchange.com/hurts-share-catholic-faith-non-catholics For my friends of all faiths.